This was a conversation with the Secretary of State at 2.30 on May 19.The Secretary sent for me. It was a long conversation, and Mr. Lansingin the course of it exclaimed:

Mr. Lansing then exclaimed that he personally would have strengthenedgreatly the judicial clauses of the league of nations covenant, makingarbitration compulsory. He also exclaimed that he was absolutely opposed tothe United States taking a mandate in either Armenia orConstantinople; that he thought that Constantinople should be placedunder a local government, the chief members of which were appointed byan international committee.

This is a matter, it seems to me, of some importance in regard to thewhole discussion, and therefore I feel at liberty to read it, as it isnot a personal matter.

The CHAIRMAN. This is a note of the conversation made at the time?