MANDEVILLE. But when we do they will begin to be places of educationand training as much as of punishment and disgrace. The public willprovide teachers in the prisons as it now does in the common schools.

THE FIRE-TENDER. The imperfections of our methods and means ofselecting those in the community who ought to be in prison are sogreat, that extra care in dealing with them becomes us. We arebeginning to learn that we cannot draw arbitrary lines with infal-lible justice. Perhaps half those who are convicted of crimes are ascapable of reformation as half those transgressors who are notconvicted, or who keep inside the statutory law.

HERBERT. Would you remove the odium of prison?